https://issues.joomla.org/tracker/joomla-cms/30463 Steps to reproduce the issue try to access the params of a menu item using $item->params->get(...) the item is loaded using $items = $menu->getItems('menutype', $params->get('menutype')); Expected result to get the param value Actual result site crash System information (as much as possible) it was working in joomla 3, does not work in joomla 4 beta 3 I see in the mod_menu that it uses that : $itemParams = $item->getParams(); but doing this, it will break all existing layouts from extension where the $item->param is used to get the values. This is a BIG problem and the $item->params->get('value') shall work in any cases as before Additional comments this problem totally crashes the page as soon as the module is published